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This episode focuses on the incredible experiences of Jim and Jamie Dutcher, living with a pack of wolves. In this fascinating interview, Jim and Jamie tell Julie in detail about their time with the Sawtooth Pack. Along the way they share insights into what a wolf family is like, the wolves' attitude towards pups and immature wolves, the sounds the wolves made, how wolves interact with the natural world around them - and what that tricky term "alpha" really means. There are also lots of anecdotes illustrating the subjects discussed. Plus there's the DogCast Radio News, and sadly, a tribute to Buddy, who passed away earlier this month.